1 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:14,910 [Music] 2 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:40,389 blast off on another episode of hero 3 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:42,879 paranormal podcast that's right my name 4 00:00:46,869 --> 00:00:44,879 is ryan the original 5 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:46,879 outlaw of the airwaves bringing you 6 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:48,160 another vip 7 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:51,840 episode from sin city the silver state 8 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:54,399 from the base of la madre mountain just 9 00:00:57,990 --> 00:00:54,960 south of 10 00:01:00,150 --> 00:00:58,000 area 51 and uh 11 00:01:01,189 --> 00:01:00,160 we appreciate your loyalty our 12 00:01:04,229 --> 00:01:01,199 multi-purpose 13 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:04,239 podcast is produced with love and that's 14 00:01:08,469 --> 00:01:06,240 just basically 15 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:08,479 information love of information love of 16 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:10,560 opening minds and at least considering 17 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:12,080 ideas that other people 18 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:16,000 just don't and when it comes to 19 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:18,960 this sort of thing darcy where wrote the 20 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:20,320 book on this or 21 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:23,439 better said he wrote the movie because 22 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:24,159 he has 23 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:26,960 created some of the best in my opinion 24 00:01:34,230 --> 00:01:29,920 documentaries that stick to the facts 25 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:34,240 and don't embellish in my opinion 26 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:37,759 what is a naturally occurring phenomenon 27 00:01:42,950 --> 00:01:39,439 of high strangeness 28 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:42,960 and uh well i'm sure he's not going to 29 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:43,680 disappoint 30 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:47,280 at all this time because it looks 31 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:49,680 absolutely phenomenal and amazing 32 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:52,799 at least the trailer does the trailer to 33 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:54,399 his new documentary is 34 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:57,520 remarkable it's on youtube and and 35 00:02:02,230 --> 00:01:59,600 uh yeah you gotta check out the trailer 36 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:02,240 it's amazing also check out the olympic 37 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:05,600 project which is a research and evidence 38 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:07,360 gathering project 39 00:02:11,350 --> 00:02:10,000 by david ellis with connection to the 40 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:11,360 bfro 41 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:13,360 great group of individuals matt 42 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:15,760 moneymaker is a great guy 43 00:02:20,869 --> 00:02:19,280 check out all of the resources 44 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:20,879 that are available if this is something 45 00:02:23,830 --> 00:02:22,319 you're getting into do it the right way 46 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:23,840 don't do it the wrong way and go to 47 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:26,959 reliable credible sources to begin with 48 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:28,800 and there's a lot of them out there i'm 49 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:31,120 not trying to discriminate against other 50 00:02:33,509 --> 00:02:31,599 ones 51 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:33,519 but i'm just you know from the cuff 52 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:34,720 shooting from the hip 53 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:37,519 naming names darcy weir has nailed it 54 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:37,920 again 55 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:40,959 as far as my consideration 56 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:43,440 in getting people that have very good 57 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:44,879 intentions to the field 58 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:47,519 the research the science the evidence 59 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:48,720 gathering 60 00:02:52,630 --> 00:02:50,640 people like jeffrey meldrum the list 61 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:52,640 goes on and on there's just so many 62 00:02:56,390 --> 00:02:54,879 without further ado let's let's get to 63 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:56,400 it because it's amazing 64 00:02:59,910 --> 00:02:58,239 very cool trailer i will post it on the 65 00:03:03,190 --> 00:02:59,920 hero paranormal 66 00:03:06,869 --> 00:03:03,200 podcast social media facebook page 67 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:06,879 and i'll uh also post this podcast 68 00:03:12,550 --> 00:03:10,640 on the heroparanormal.com archive so 69 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:12,560 yeah definitely check this out it's 70 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:13,840 going to be available on 71 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:16,000 amazon we're going to get darcy here on 72 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:18,959 the line in just a couple minutes um 73 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:21,280 but it's something you definitely have 74 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:22,720 to check out and if you haven't checked 75 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:24,239 out here at paranormal dot com 76 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:26,480 check it out subscribe on youtube 77 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:27,519 subscribe 78 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:31,040 to podbean patreon or 79 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:34,239 whatever method you prefer and uh we got 80 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:35,519 a lot of free content so 81 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:37,519 if you don't want to subscribe i get it 82 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:39,120 it's just hard for me to continue 83 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:41,840 without a little bit of subscription so 84 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:42,640 um 85 00:03:47,190 --> 00:03:44,560 maybe it's just my ego no it's really 86 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:47,200 not it's it's expensive 87 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:49,440 and i uh i'll probably do it whether i 88 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:51,040 have zero listeners or 89 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:54,480 a million so um do what you need to do 90 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:57,760 go with the flow and uh darcy 91 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:00,400 weir is coming here in just a second i'm 92 00:04:04,149 --> 00:04:02,319 going to dial him up on skype 93 00:04:05,429 --> 00:04:04,159 be patient with me while we ring him 94 00:04:08,309 --> 00:04:05,439 sometimes skype is 95 00:04:09,509 --> 00:04:08,319 uh really loud so i like to mute that it 96 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:09,519 can be annoying 97 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:11,519 and it sometimes just cuts out for no 98 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:13,920 reason so oh wait i think we got him 99 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:15,840 with no further ado 100 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:18,000 darcy weir welcome to the hero 101 00:04:22,310 --> 00:04:20,000 paranormal podcast 102 00:04:25,189 --> 00:04:22,320 good bud how you doing doing great doing 103 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:25,199 great i'm super excited about this new 104 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,440 trailer uh that was on youtube this 105 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:29,600 looks amazing man 106 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:31,759 thank you thank you i hope you enjoy the 107 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:32,800 film when it's uh 108 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:36,160 out on tuesday it's it's so cool to be 109 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:38,320 able to talk about it kind of beforehand 110 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:40,880 because you know you got all the right 111 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:42,080 players in here 112 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:45,280 and listening to meldrum at the 113 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:45,919 beginning 114 00:04:50,150 --> 00:04:47,440 i think he kind of hits it on the head 115 00:04:51,189 --> 00:04:50,160 where you know a lot of this information 116 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:51,199 is being lost 117 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:52,400 you know literally through our 118 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:53,919 fingertips because of cultural 119 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:55,040 differences 120 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:56,720 and different names for the animal 121 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:58,639 things of that nature 122 00:05:01,670 --> 00:05:00,160 without going into too much because the 123 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:01,680 film's not out yet 124 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:03,840 what what kind of motive you motivated 125 00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:05,600 you darcy this time 126 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:07,680 to kind of attack the big furry guy 127 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:08,960 again and go into one of my favorite 128 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:10,960 topics which is bigfoot 129 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:14,639 cool um yeah one of my favorite 130 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:18,320 two um well i 131 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:20,160 believe it or not uh you know you've 132 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:21,919 seen the 133 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,720 first cut of the unwanted sasquatch 134 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:26,160 right 135 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:29,280 my first documentary amazing yep 136 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:33,680 okay um so that that film when i was 137 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:36,400 shooting the interview with jeff meldrum 138 00:05:39,830 --> 00:05:36,720 back 139 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:39,840 in i believe it was 2016 140 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:43,600 but i started filming it in 2015 with 141 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:46,800 bill miller and thomas steenberg 142 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:49,199 in harrison hot springs northern british 143 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:51,120 columbia of canada 144 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:55,199 um i basically 145 00:05:59,909 --> 00:05:58,240 traveled out to jeff meldrum's lab in at 146 00:06:03,029 --> 00:05:59,919 idaho state university 147 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:03,039 and he was gracious enough to start 148 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:05,039 enlightening me on 149 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:08,639 you know the facts all of the history 150 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:11,440 surrounding sasquatch and or bigfoot in 151 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:12,000 other 152 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:15,520 in the american terminology 153 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:18,960 and i was in his 154 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:20,639 lab and i was looking around we were 155 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:23,440 chatting and i picked up this pamphlet 156 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:27,520 and it set on it uh 157 00:06:34,790 --> 00:06:31,680 wild men uh relic hominids from 158 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:34,800 around the world and i i i 159 00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:38,880 started you know moving my way through 160 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:40,319 it and i said oh what's this 161 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:43,680 and he said oh yeah um i just 162 00:06:48,150 --> 00:06:45,680 printed off a couple of those i 163 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:48,160 something i'm working on right now 164 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:52,080 i think i'm gonna uh get them out there 165 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:55,680 in distribution like on scale soon but 166 00:07:03,830 --> 00:06:56,479 uh 167 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:03,840 a whole bunch of you know cryptid 168 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:07,440 wild men that have appeared throughout 169 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:10,479 history internationally 170 00:07:17,830 --> 00:07:13,599 and uh you know we've got the dev 171 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:17,840 and the dev can be found in um 172 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:21,120 iraq syria like the mountainous areas 173 00:07:24,790 --> 00:07:23,520 out in the middle east all the way to 174 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:24,800 eastern europe 175 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:28,400 we've got uh the yeren 176 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:32,400 in china the yeti everybody recognizes 177 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:34,000 which is in the himalayas 178 00:07:41,029 --> 00:07:37,680 but um also the yeti 179 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:41,039 the russians refer to their 180 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:44,960 wild man the one that more so resembles 181 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:49,199 bigfoot as a yeti but then the russians 182 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:50,160 also have 183 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:52,560 the almisty there's more than one 184 00:07:57,510 --> 00:07:53,520 there's 185 00:07:59,029 --> 00:07:57,520 something that looks quite similar to a 186 00:08:02,550 --> 00:07:59,039 neanderthal 187 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:02,560 a short stockier version of 188 00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:06,000 a human but more heavily clad with 189 00:08:11,909 --> 00:08:09,199 hair from head to toe than uh 190 00:08:12,869 --> 00:08:11,919 your average human and a little bit you 191 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:12,879 know 192 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:14,479 stronger looking a little bit more 193 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:17,840 ape-like looking in the face 194 00:08:22,150 --> 00:08:21,039 so he said you can have that you can 195 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:22,160 keep that 196 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:24,960 and i said all right yeah this looks 197 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:26,400 really interesting 198 00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:28,800 i'm going to read it on the flight home 199 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:30,479 so i was reading it and i i 200 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:33,360 put sort of in the back of my mind this 201 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:34,560 is a cool story 202 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:37,919 this is what needs to be told 203 00:08:42,310 --> 00:08:40,880 this is kind of the natural progression 204 00:08:46,630 --> 00:08:42,320 of the theory 205 00:08:50,389 --> 00:08:46,640 to talk about relatives to 206 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:50,399 bigfoot or sasquatch and and further 207 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:53,839 um put it out there that 208 00:09:01,590 --> 00:08:57,040 look sasquatch 209 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:01,600 is not alone and it's possibly 210 00:09:07,509 --> 00:09:05,600 a cryptid or hominid relic hominid that 211 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:07,519 lives in deep wilderness in in our 212 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:10,560 forests here in north america 213 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:13,279 and there's other relic hominids that 214 00:09:20,829 --> 00:09:14,959 are related to it 215 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:22,710 world 216 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:25,920 yeah and i like the term relic hominid 217 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:27,200 because 218 00:09:31,670 --> 00:09:29,760 this is a story and like all of your 219 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:31,680 documentaries they're all true 220 00:09:34,949 --> 00:09:33,760 you only stick to the facts and i i 221 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:34,959 think that's 222 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:37,200 my favorite thing about them darcy and 223 00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:38,560 this is like thousands 224 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:40,880 of years throughout the world many 225 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:42,000 cultures and 226 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:44,240 it's the same idea and and they're 227 00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:46,160 different sizes they're different colors 228 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:49,360 but there's a lot of a uh there seems to 229 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:50,720 be a trap 230 00:09:57,269 --> 00:09:54,080 that we get caught into because it's not 231 00:10:00,630 --> 00:09:57,279 quite human and and so it's just 232 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:00,640 discouraged to even talk about 233 00:10:08,069 --> 00:10:04,000 that's right um you know if 234 00:10:11,430 --> 00:10:08,079 if we were to go off of reports of 235 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:11,440 commonly uh shared 236 00:10:15,670 --> 00:10:13,920 reports data that we've received over 237 00:10:18,230 --> 00:10:15,680 the years in north america 238 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:18,240 from multiple sightings you know 239 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:19,680 hundreds 240 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:23,600 uh people claim to see them at night 241 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:27,760 and uh they claim to see them 242 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:30,399 sometimes more often than not in their 243 00:10:34,069 --> 00:10:31,279 headlights 244 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:34,079 crossing the road on like a logging road 245 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:35,680 or a forest road 246 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:39,120 something like that and when people say 247 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:40,160 that they see them 248 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:42,560 they recognize that the headlights are 249 00:10:48,310 --> 00:10:44,880 shining in their eyes 250 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:48,320 so in other words they have eye shine 251 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:51,920 and um as far as i know 252 00:10:59,590 --> 00:10:55,040 there is no such thing as eye shine in 253 00:11:02,150 --> 00:10:59,600 the human capability right we don't have 254 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:02,160 nocturnal eyes we haven't adapted that 255 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:03,040 way 256 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:06,560 so that leads me to believe that these 257 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:07,440 are definitely 258 00:11:12,550 --> 00:11:10,880 not a human so to speak they're 259 00:11:16,389 --> 00:11:12,560 something else 260 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:16,399 they are just another hominid and we are 261 00:11:23,269 --> 00:11:20,640 a hominid you know we are um 262 00:11:24,069 --> 00:11:23,279 very ape-like we are very instinctual 263 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:24,079 still right 264 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:27,279 we act upon our urge to 265 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:30,480 eat procreate 266 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:33,120 sleep find shelter you know and and 267 00:11:36,790 --> 00:11:33,600 there's 268 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:36,800 not much has changed for us since we 269 00:11:41,509 --> 00:11:39,839 became officially homo sapiens thousands 270 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:41,519 of years ago 271 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:43,760 that's why we're still trying to kill 272 00:11:48,150 --> 00:11:45,120 each other uh 273 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:48,160 and warring like 274 00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:50,800 normal apes do if you look at like a 275 00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:52,079 chimpanzee 276 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:55,279 their tribe can't be any bigger than 277 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:59,040 i think it's 50 otherwise they'll 278 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:01,040 break off and they'll become two 279 00:12:03,350 --> 00:12:02,480 different tribes and fight with each 280 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:03,360 other 281 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:08,000 and uh the theory with sasquatch is that 282 00:12:12,389 --> 00:12:09,760 they're 283 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:12,399 there's many of them out there uh not as 284 00:12:17,269 --> 00:12:13,200 many as 285 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:17,279 us they live more of a solitary 286 00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:20,800 uh smaller tribe type life 287 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:24,880 in deep wilderness and um 288 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:27,760 you know if we look at the the yaren 289 00:12:32,230 --> 00:12:28,959 tales of the urine 290 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:32,240 in china we actually 291 00:12:40,550 --> 00:12:37,120 show the expose of 292 00:12:43,269 --> 00:12:40,560 many chinese men that not only have had 293 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:43,279 yerin encounters themselves in the in 294 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:45,760 the new documentary 295 00:12:54,949 --> 00:12:50,639 but we also um listen to 296 00:12:58,629 --> 00:12:54,959 you know their their accounts of 297 00:13:01,910 --> 00:12:58,639 how the yaren relates to sasquatch 298 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:01,920 um and jeff meldrum did a really cool 299 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:03,040 study 300 00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:06,320 uh at the idaho state university and 301 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,320 you you'll see it in the documentary 302 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:11,040 where he compares the findings of the 303 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:13,920 erin and the trace evidence of that's 304 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:16,000 left behind 305 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:19,760 after those sightings to what we have as 306 00:13:22,389 --> 00:13:21,519 trace evidence here in north america 307 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:22,399 when the bigfoot 308 00:13:28,629 --> 00:13:25,440 or sasquatch has been seen and 309 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:28,639 it's remarkably very very similar 310 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:31,760 they have pretty much the same 311 00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:36,000 uh feat in terms of foot pathology 312 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:39,440 they have uh similar dimensions 313 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:42,480 in in what's described as their the size 314 00:13:46,949 --> 00:13:43,360 of their feet 315 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:46,959 their body um anatomy 316 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:49,440 seems to be the same from accounts you 317 00:13:53,509 --> 00:13:50,160 know 318 00:13:56,949 --> 00:13:53,519 very tall covered in reddish brown 319 00:14:00,230 --> 00:13:56,959 sometimes dark brown uh 320 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:00,240 fur from head to toe um 321 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:03,360 and they they seem to be more so 322 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:04,560 nocturnal because 323 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:06,160 these gentlemen if you look at the 324 00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:08,240 trailer they had 325 00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:11,519 um an encounter on a highway 326 00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:14,639 in china um while they were passing a 327 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:16,480 national forest 328 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:19,680 and uh they nearly hit a 329 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:22,480 year in on that road so they got out of 330 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:25,279 the car threw rocks at it and you know 331 00:14:29,110 --> 00:14:27,600 exactly what you'd want to do to some 332 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:29,120 unique find in the world 333 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:33,519 but um yeah uh 334 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:36,000 it's just it's remarkable when when you 335 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:38,000 see the association between all these 336 00:14:40,069 --> 00:14:38,720 different 337 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:40,079 accounts that have happened around the 338 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:42,160 world 339 00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:45,040 yeah and as is so often the case that's 340 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:45,839 that's what 341 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:48,000 happens you know there's so many times 342 00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:49,279 that you know people 343 00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:51,279 try to shoot at it or it's just fear 344 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:53,440 kicks in i guess fight or flight 345 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:55,839 and something so interesting about this 346 00:14:58,150 --> 00:14:57,600 documentary although i haven't seen it 347 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,160 yet as 348 00:15:02,629 --> 00:15:00,560 usual you have kind of blown me away by 349 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:02,639 incorporating the whole 350 00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:06,160 chinese urine and i started to like 351 00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:08,480 research that darcy and i mean 352 00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:11,279 the urine translated directly actually 353 00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:13,600 means wild man so you nailed it 354 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:17,040 and the interesting thing is i mean this 355 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:19,360 is like the oldest documented 356 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,880 culture that has dealt with this 357 00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:22,959 mysterious creature and it predates 358 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:26,000 all stories of yeti and bigfoot so mad 359 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:29,440 props again the interesting thing is 360 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:32,959 that they have almost identical 361 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:36,000 in the research i've done anyway like 362 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:39,600 how the urine reacts as far as like the 363 00:15:42,230 --> 00:15:40,079 bigfoot 364 00:15:44,230 --> 00:15:42,240 reacting and and i just thought that was 365 00:15:48,389 --> 00:15:44,240 a real a real win there so 366 00:15:51,670 --> 00:15:48,399 good job on that hey thank you ben 367 00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:51,680 um i appreciate that uh 368 00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:55,199 yeah i mean exactly what you were saying 369 00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:56,160 with the urine 370 00:16:02,470 --> 00:15:59,279 being translating as a wild man 371 00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:02,480 um in in the chinese culture their 372 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:03,759 language 373 00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:07,120 um they've had you know 374 00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:10,320 thousand thousands of years of 375 00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:12,959 documentation talking about this wild 376 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:13,360 man 377 00:16:20,310 --> 00:16:17,920 in fact you know um they've been 378 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:20,320 documenting their history for a lot 379 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:21,600 longer than 380 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:24,880 uh what north americans may 381 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:27,839 give credit to you know people may not 382 00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:28,800 know but 383 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,240 there's oral tradition kind of like our 384 00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:34,800 indigenous people but there's also 385 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,000 scrolls and and manuscripts dating back 386 00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:40,560 thousands of years in china and they 387 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:41,839 talk about the wild man 388 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:45,040 so um if we are 389 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,920 to liken that to something we have in 390 00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:49,279 north america 391 00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:52,639 in terms of a history 392 00:16:57,910 --> 00:16:56,079 of encounters we can look at the bigfoot 393 00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:57,920 or the sasquatch 394 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:01,199 and we can 395 00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:04,400 speak to the elder tribes in 396 00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:07,520 the indigenous peoples of the united 397 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:08,880 states and canada 398 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:11,280 you know across north america and they 399 00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:13,520 will say themselves that 400 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:15,199 these things have been around since the 401 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,360 dawn of time 402 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:19,679 they go by different names all the the 403 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:20,640 the native 404 00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:24,000 tribes across north america uh have 405 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:26,240 different names you know a few i could 406 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:28,160 mention obviously is 407 00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:31,120 sasquatch it comes from canada it was 408 00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:33,840 sas get 409 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:37,919 in the stahelis tribe 410 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:40,320 and then we have the zunichua and we 411 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:42,080 have 412 00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:45,360 the skookum 413 00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:47,280 you know which are two other names but 414 00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:48,720 the names you know 415 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:52,400 is longer than the list of um 416 00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:55,120 names that are out there internationally 417 00:17:59,750 --> 00:17:56,720 for wild men 418 00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:59,760 um like i said in russia they have a 419 00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:01,360 couple names for their 420 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:05,600 different types of wild men and 421 00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:09,200 i i think 422 00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:11,039 it's quite possible i mean if you look 423 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:13,760 at the theory of 424 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,320 neanderthal for example right we know 425 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:17,679 that they died off 426 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:20,480 and that they were a unique uh 427 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:21,520 subspecies 428 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:25,200 of hominids that existed 429 00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:28,320 when homo sapiens were first starting 430 00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:29,120 out 431 00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:32,480 taking over the uh the planet 432 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:36,880 really and if you think about the story 433 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:37,840 of 434 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:41,520 uh neanderthals people say that they may 435 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:42,000 have 436 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:45,840 red hair 437 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,000 and they say that's genetic trait of 438 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:50,400 neanderthals red hair is 439 00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:53,760 can be tracked back to that gene and 440 00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:55,919 unfortunately they did another study 441 00:19:00,789 --> 00:18:57,520 with covid19 442 00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:00,799 recently and they tried they 443 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,919 say that folks that have the neanderthal 444 00:19:08,830 --> 00:19:05,520 gene in their blood 445 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:08,840 are more likely to have more severe 446 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:10,080 effects 447 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:13,520 um to have a higher reaction 448 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:17,200 to covid19 worse symptoms 449 00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:20,480 uh which sucks but anyways 450 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:24,000 um neanderthals officially 451 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:27,520 may have mingled and or they did 452 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:32,080 we can genetically prove that but their 453 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:35,440 species died off that's what we think 454 00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:38,880 and the almisty may be a 455 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:41,919 relic neanderthal that has 456 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:46,320 not died off that was decided to 457 00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:49,360 live in deeper russian 458 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,400 um wilderness 459 00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:54,720 in order to stay further away from us 460 00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:56,480 because we are 461 00:20:02,789 --> 00:19:59,600 violent highly intelligent creatures 462 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:02,799 um and uh yeah by 463 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:05,760 what you said earlier when we listen to 464 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:06,000 the 465 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:19,440 aggressive and 466 00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,039 i don't know coming towards us and 467 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:25,520 and uh although there are accounts of 468 00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:27,360 that i have heard of that it's it's 469 00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:28,320 rarer 470 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:31,440 i hear more often that they're just as 471 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:32,080 shocked 472 00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,280 by our presence as we are 473 00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:37,600 by theirs and they want to go one way 474 00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:38,960 and we want to go the other 475 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:42,320 you know uh so 476 00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:45,280 i think if there are relic commenteds 477 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:46,880 still in existence 478 00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:50,960 that are associated with things that are 479 00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:54,400 in the fossil record that have been said 480 00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:55,280 to exist 481 00:21:02,310 --> 00:20:58,640 like australopithecus 482 00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,320 or gigantopithecus um 483 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:04,960 neanderthal you know these are all 484 00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:05,760 things that we 485 00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:08,559 we know did exist there's a possibility 486 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:08,960 that 487 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:12,080 some of them or their relatives 488 00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:16,720 are still alive today in deep wilderness 489 00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:18,960 yeah and that's that's so amazing 490 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:19,840 because there are 491 00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:21,919 different branches and different you 492 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:23,520 know like you said that they 493 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,679 these these can go different ways we 494 00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:27,200 don't know exactly what they 495 00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,799 and they may have gone different ways 496 00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:30,559 these different creatures 497 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:34,400 but they may be part of the same uh 498 00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:36,799 general group an interesting thing i 499 00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:37,919 wanted to chat about 500 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,640 is you know eerie sounds in the distance 501 00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:42,240 and i know that this is something that 502 00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:42,960 is 503 00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:46,400 usually ignored uh most hunters that 504 00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,679 i've talked about 505 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:49,600 or talked to have done that you know 506 00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:50,720 they'll tell you stories but they 507 00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:53,039 usually try to ignore these things 508 00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:55,919 and um it's usually because of range the 509 00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:58,000 range is dramatically larger than 510 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:00,000 you know what other animals quote 511 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:01,520 unquote would do 512 00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:03,520 and a lot of people have heard these 513 00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:05,440 howls initially from the distance and 514 00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:06,559 they appear to 515 00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:09,600 be super loud in the trailer you 516 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:12,720 have a testimony from someone who 517 00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,600 was like ground zero to one of these i i 518 00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:17,360 realize you may not be able to go into 519 00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:18,320 it but 520 00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:19,919 a gentleman that i can't remember it was 521 00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:21,919 like 30 yards or 30 feet 522 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:25,520 away i thought that was so fascinating 523 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:28,960 yeah so um one of the things we delve 524 00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:29,440 into 525 00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:34,159 in in the documentary is vocalizations 526 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:37,280 and we covered vocalizations before 527 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:41,280 in my previous documentary 528 00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,640 the unwanted sasquatch in this 529 00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:45,919 documentary 530 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,039 we cover um some of the research that 531 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:50,720 david ellis 532 00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:53,280 has done over the years and this is a 533 00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:54,159 really impressive 534 00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:57,840 collection of sounds that he has 535 00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:00,559 not only recorded firsthand from 536 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:01,520 encounters 537 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:06,240 or expeditions that they had taken 538 00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:09,760 him and other researchers but 539 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,520 uh he also has this collection built on 540 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,080 other people's recordings they've taken 541 00:23:20,830 --> 00:23:17,840 from across north america 542 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:20,840 and they've submitted to him to have 543 00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:22,320 analyzed um 544 00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:25,520 and yeah we really 545 00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:28,559 we show how he 546 00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:31,840 analyzes those vocalizations and how we 547 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,559 can 548 00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:35,039 rule out that those vocalizations come 549 00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:36,159 from 550 00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,720 something uh such as a i don't know a 551 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:40,320 raccoon a coyote 552 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:43,600 uh a wolf elk that type of thing 553 00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:47,039 so um that's a really cool part of the 554 00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:47,919 documentary 555 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:51,200 and i think it it helps 556 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:54,159 people understand that it's not just a 557 00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:55,760 bunch of lunatic 558 00:24:01,750 --> 00:23:59,520 uh fringe theory people that are 559 00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:01,760 pursuing this subject you know you've 560 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:02,960 got people like 561 00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,640 dr jeffrey meldrum who's a 562 00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,799 state university professor of 563 00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:09,919 anthropology 564 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:13,760 and knows wildlife um 565 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:16,480 he's a biologist and knows like all 566 00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:17,120 kinds of 567 00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:20,240 things to help him uh 568 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,919 make a very informed decision about 569 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:25,760 what he's looking at or what he's 570 00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:28,720 experiencing or what other people have 571 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:31,679 and then you have david ellis who's 572 00:24:36,750 --> 00:24:32,080 quite 573 00:24:41,549 --> 00:24:36,760 trained in how to analyze 574 00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:41,559 spectrograms of audio or 575 00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:45,039 vocalizations and then how he 576 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:48,159 rules out what it is or what it isn't 577 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:52,240 and the tactics of comparison so 578 00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:55,840 i think it's just a good thing to shed 579 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:01,190 other interviewers have asked me you 580 00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:04,400 know what do you think of shows like 581 00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:07,679 finding bigfoot and monster hunter 582 00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:11,120 quest or whatever uh those reality tv 583 00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,640 shows and i 584 00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:14,240 i think they're interesting they have 585 00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:15,760 their own place in the world 586 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:19,760 but they tend to 587 00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:22,480 not focus on the more credible parts of 588 00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:23,360 this 589 00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:29,840 and they don't really do it a serious 590 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,799 justice 591 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:33,120 they kind of make fun of or make light 592 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,400 of 593 00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:37,200 the people that are investigating or 594 00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:38,320 researching 595 00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,230 and and yeah um that's that's pretty 596 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:46,480 much where david ellis comes into 597 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,600 uh the documentary and 598 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:51,840 i'm glad that you mentioned david ellis 599 00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:53,120 and uh 600 00:25:58,110 --> 00:25:56,480 dr jeffrey meldrum because i i remember 601 00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:58,120 mr meldrum saying that it's 602 00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,520 irresponsible 603 00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:01,919 is what i believe he would call the 604 00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:03,520 behavior of some 605 00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:06,159 but it's it's i think it's important to 606 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:06,720 note 607 00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:10,000 that um you know a lot of what meldrum 608 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:13,039 does is he also shows the hallmarks of 609 00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,760 hoaxes 610 00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:16,000 with mid-tarsal breaks like you said he 611 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:17,600 knows a lot 612 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:20,799 and he's not after controversy 613 00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:23,520 or speculation he's after science and i 614 00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,880 think he brings 615 00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:26,960 you know hard science to it as does 616 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:27,919 david 617 00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:30,080 so that that's so cool that you brought 618 00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:31,679 them both into it 619 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:35,279 and the from the 620 00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:38,240 at least from the initial trailer it 621 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:38,960 looks to me 622 00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:41,760 like we probably have like one of the 623 00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:42,159 best 624 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,080 coming out 625 00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:48,400 um can you give us any teasers of neat 626 00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:50,840 things that are going to be 627 00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:53,520 included yeah 628 00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:57,919 so we not only go around the world and 629 00:27:02,310 --> 00:26:59,200 compare 630 00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:02,320 accounts and tales of 631 00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:09,430 sightings and uh creatures that 632 00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:13,440 have been said said to exist but we also 633 00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:18,240 um interview jeffrey meldrum again 634 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:21,600 um we get his full 635 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,039 and uh devoted attention on the subject 636 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:26,880 you know he compares 637 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:29,360 foot casts that he has from the 638 00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,720 different creatures 639 00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:33,120 uh from different famous sightings that 640 00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:34,320 have happened 641 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:37,679 internationally and 642 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:40,960 we talk about uh just 643 00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:44,240 the way the world was in in in 644 00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:47,120 ancient times you know before homo 645 00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:48,159 sapiens 646 00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:50,399 like i said before really took over the 647 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:51,440 planet 648 00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:54,880 we had um things such as the bearing 649 00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,919 straight the bearing ice bridge or some 650 00:28:02,389 --> 00:27:59,360 people call it the bearing 651 00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:02,399 uh land bridge that 652 00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:06,000 connected our continent north america 653 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:09,039 with um that of asia 654 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:12,159 and russia and that whole area 655 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:16,399 and we talk about how there was a 656 00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:17,360 migration 657 00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:20,240 of different types of species between 658 00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:21,440 the two 659 00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:25,120 um we also talked about uh some recent 660 00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:26,799 findings in north america 661 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,679 that are quite remarkable quite 662 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:31,120 interesting from a group called the 663 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:32,720 olympic project 664 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:36,159 that kind of do their research across 665 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:39,200 washington state oregon 666 00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,399 and northern california 667 00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:44,880 these are all hot spot states for 668 00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:47,760 sightings even still today 669 00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:50,880 and uh these gentlemen found what seems 670 00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:52,159 to be nests 671 00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:55,840 nesting sites or a community 672 00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:58,960 so to speak of supposed 673 00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:02,399 bigfoot that may have existed in the 674 00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:06,399 olympic park national forest 675 00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,760 in washington state so 676 00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,600 we then compare that also with nests 677 00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:13,679 that have been found internationally 678 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:16,720 you know and uh i've said it before i'll 679 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:17,600 say it again 680 00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:19,760 where there's smoke there must be fire 681 00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:21,760 if if there's that much smoke there must 682 00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:23,520 be something to this 683 00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,200 um and of course we cover 684 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:29,360 that there is hoaxes there are people 685 00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:30,480 out there 686 00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,200 that are not doing justice to what 687 00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:34,720 should be considered 688 00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:38,399 a serious topic i think and uh 689 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:41,760 you get that in every phenomenon and 690 00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:42,559 every 691 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:45,840 um fringe theory out there 692 00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,960 or mainstream theory for that matter you 693 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,240 get 694 00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,799 people that will raise their hand and 695 00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:54,960 say i have something to say 696 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:57,440 this is what happened in my experience 697 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:58,000 and 698 00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,520 most of the time it's just people that 699 00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:01,679 are attention seekers you know they're 700 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:02,640 not 701 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:05,520 really there for the betterment of the 702 00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,399 study 703 00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,320 uh so we go into that a bit too in the 704 00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,320 documentary and uh i 705 00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,399 we did that as well in the under 706 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,640 unwanted sasquatch 707 00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:16,640 um i don't know if you remember we we 708 00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,919 covered some 709 00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:20,159 some interesting theories kind of fringe 710 00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:22,320 theories in terms of the 711 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:25,600 bigfoot or sasquatch question in north 712 00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:26,320 america 713 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:29,360 and um that documentary 714 00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:30,960 i'll just add we're going to be 715 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:33,919 releasing as a director's cut with 716 00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:37,360 you know around 15 minutes of extra 717 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:40,480 interviews and new content uh 718 00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:43,840 next january so you know we've got 719 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,640 uh this documentary in november and then 720 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:48,000 pretty much after a month 721 00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:51,840 we've got another uh new and improved 722 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,360 version of the original that you might 723 00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:55,600 have seen so if people want to check out 724 00:31:01,990 --> 00:30:58,880 both um i think they'll get a lot out of 725 00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:02,000 this continuity of content that we've 726 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:04,880 put together yeah and for those that 727 00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:05,760 haven't seen it 728 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,679 i would say that that uh the the 729 00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:09,360 unwanted is a must-see it's 730 00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:12,399 it's the best i've seen since uh 731 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,480 better really than when legend meets 732 00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:16,000 science you know and 733 00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:19,039 just because it does not embellish in in 734 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,720 addition i'm really glad that you 735 00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:22,320 brought up the olympic project because 736 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:23,519 we kind of 737 00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,640 uh brushed over david ellis and you know 738 00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,799 the track casting analysis and the field 739 00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:30,880 audio recording analysis and 740 00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:33,279 he's tracking i mean what's so amazing 741 00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:34,799 if if people haven't checked out the 742 00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:37,840 olympic project you have to because 743 00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:40,000 it's pretty neat it's pretty neat and 744 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:41,279 it's real field 745 00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:43,760 investigation that's that's gravitating 746 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:45,039 towards collecting evidence 747 00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,720 and show i mean literally possibly 748 00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:50,559 showing where they're going to be ahead 749 00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,080 of the time they're there which is 750 00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,720 mind-blowing i mean this is you know the 751 00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:56,480 technology involved is getting to a 752 00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:57,360 point where 753 00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,799 you know it is a lot like uh 754 00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:02,799 not to go down that path but like 755 00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:04,720 moneymaker said that we have more to 756 00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:05,919 learn from them 757 00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,509 yeah of course and i'm i'm a fan of matt 758 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:13,679 moneymaker you know i think he's done a 759 00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:14,320 lot 760 00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:17,760 for this study um i think 761 00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:21,360 the uh bigfoot field research 762 00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:22,399 organization 763 00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,600 bfro is incredibly important 764 00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,320 and the uh olympic project is part of 765 00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,320 that you know 766 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,480 it's just its own branch that's doing 767 00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,320 some new things and 768 00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:37,519 trying to find some new details in 769 00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:38,799 regards to 770 00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:42,399 this study um going about it a different 771 00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:43,360 way 772 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:46,480 so yeah definitely check out the olympic 773 00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:47,039 project 774 00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:49,840 check out what's going on in the bfro if 775 00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:50,799 you're 776 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,840 not burst in this at all check out some 777 00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:55,200 books that have been written 778 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:00,000 you know there's um sasquatch for 779 00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:04,559 uh meets science i think that's jeffrey 780 00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:10,640 dr meldrum's book 781 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,760 i'm just going to check meats 782 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:15,360 yeah i think that's right when legend 783 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:22,070 it's legend meat science so yeah check 784 00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:22,720 out 785 00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:25,919 the book uh sasquatch 786 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,039 where uh just legend meets science 787 00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:31,600 i think it's a fascinating really well 788 00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:32,640 done book 789 00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,519 nothing super over sensational in that 790 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:37,760 you've got books by grover crans you've 791 00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:38,080 got 792 00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:47,190 wildlife biologist uh john 793 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,240 binderman dr john bindernangle who was a 794 00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:52,480 canadian as well 795 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:55,919 he you know when you see somebody like a 796 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:02,310 making a book about this very credibly 797 00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:05,120 and trying to say we have an upright ape 798 00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:07,039 possibly a living 799 00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:10,720 um in our midst on the north american 800 00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:13,760 continent if a wildlife biologist is 801 00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,639 saying this 802 00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,560 you gotta kind of take that seriously 803 00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,879 because he is he knows what's out there 804 00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:20,000 in our forests 805 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:23,320 um and he's heard most of the 806 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:26,720 vocalizations he's seen scat he's seen 807 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:29,679 tracks he knows what is a bear what's 808 00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:30,240 not 809 00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:34,639 you know and here he is writing a book 810 00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:38,159 about something that mainstream science 811 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:39,599 says does not exist 812 00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:43,760 so uh yeah check it yeah it's very cool 813 00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:46,560 and i also wanted to not brush over the 814 00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:47,679 fact that if nobody's 815 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,240 actually checked out the bigfoot field 816 00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:52,320 research organization that's 817 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,480 kind of where i dip my toe into this and 818 00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,480 was proven that it was real i signed an 819 00:35:02,870 --> 00:34:59,280 nda so i can't go into it but 820 00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:02,880 it's amazing that the the impact on the 821 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:03,440 land 822 00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,920 that these creatures have is so subtle 823 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:07,599 that it takes a really trained 824 00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:10,800 eye to even notice it and the bfro has 825 00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:12,000 been around 826 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:15,280 the longest so if you want to have a 827 00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:16,720 trained eye they're a really good place 828 00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:17,599 to go 829 00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:19,839 um thank you so much darcy i can't wait 830 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,640 to watch it 831 00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,640 and can you tell our listeners where we 832 00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:24,240 can pre-order it or just kind of get it 833 00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:25,119 in general 834 00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:28,480 yeah sure i can send you a link to the 835 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,760 amazon dvd site if 836 00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:34,160 if people want to have a physical copy 837 00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:37,280 of course they can they can order it 838 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:40,960 but otherwise it will be 839 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:44,240 live on tuesday on 840 00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:50,790 in demand a whole bunch of [\h__\h] 841 00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:55,200 verizon fios all kinds of cable 842 00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:58,720 television and in demand 843 00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:01,280 sort of on-demand services across north 844 00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:02,240 america 845 00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:10,310 and many other streaming services 846 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:13,040 from the get-go if if that's you know 847 00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:13,920 google play 848 00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:16,480 if these are places where you'd like to 849 00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:17,680 consume your data 850 00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:20,800 instead of um through your 851 00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,640 typical tv platform and uh yeah i'm 852 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,079 really looking forward 853 00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:28,960 to hearing people's feedback you know 854 00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:29,839 i'm 855 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:32,880 a very inclusive documentary maker i 856 00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:33,680 want to 857 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:37,440 the subject 858 00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:40,480 so if you ever have some information or 859 00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,400 encounters you've had yourself you know 860 00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:44,640 you can reach me on 861 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,800 facebook i go by the same name darcy 862 00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:48,240 weir 863 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:52,160 linkedin uh instagram 864 00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:55,599 yeah hope everybody stays uh 865 00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:00,480 stays safe healthy and uh 866 00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:04,000 and we have a good 2021 coming amen man 867 00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:05,359 and thanks so much for all of your 868 00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:07,359 dedication of this subject matter 869 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:10,160 and uh can't wait we'll talk soon and 870 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,240 stay safe yourself appreciate you 871 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:14,160 thanks for having me on the show man and 872 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,440 uh 873 00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,280 happy to come back sometime with some of 874 00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:19,359 the future documentaries that are coming 875 00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:20,880 in take care man always a pleasure 876 00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:23,280 chatting with you wow man darcy weir 877 00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,800 ladies and gentlemen pretty much the 878 00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:26,240 coolest 879 00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:30,960 justice to the science 880 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:34,960 and the reality that there may be 881 00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:38,400 something airy in the woods 882 00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:40,960 usually at night so don't let that freak 883 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,000 you out get out there 884 00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:44,480 enjoy the woods it's the best time to go 885 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:45,599 out in my opinion 886 00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:48,880 leaves are changing and honestly the 887 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:50,000 cities just aren't that 888 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,280 appealing anymore i've been uh 889 00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:55,440 updating a bunch of stuff in my life 890 00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,480 including 891 00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:58,640 the realization that i want to be 892 00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,079 outdoors more 893 00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:02,400 than i want to be indoors so that's hard 894 00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:03,839 to do especially when you're doing a 895 00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:04,800 podcast so 896 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:07,040 i will continue to try to make both 897 00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,160 happen 898 00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:09,760 and raise a family in addition to that 899 00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:11,760 it's all good times and 900 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,520 uh if you haven't been outdoors get out 901 00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:14,880 there get out there 902 00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,160 not where there's a bunch of other 903 00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:18,000 people but get out there where 904 00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:21,520 there's not a bunch of other people and 905 00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:23,440 maybe if you're in those areas you just 906 00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:24,880 might see a wild man 907 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,680 or something along those lines we may 908 00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,520 have more to learn from them 909 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:32,480 than they have to learn from us until 910 00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:34,240 next time guys keep your eyes to the 911 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:35,280 skies 912 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:38,960 feet on the ground but don't forget 913 00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:47,110 to take a look around 914 00:39:13,109 --> 00:38:58,640 [Music]